tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5598883894140893389.post9058749610103741250..comments2024-01-02T22:01:12.976+00:00Comments on Avedon's Sideshow: I got so much honey the bees envy meAvedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04702100335744054401noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5598883894140893389.post-52702789523104562442014-03-21T01:32:56.436+00:002014-03-21T01:32:56.436+00:00ksix said:
And here's the Democrats' fav...<b>ksix said:</b> <br /><br />And <a href="http://daily.sightline.org/2014/03/04/the-man-behind-the-exploding-trains/" rel="nofollow">here's</a> the Democrats' favorite plutocrat and all-around decent human being. Yes, there's nothing wrong with being rich.<br />Reposthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999585125847347993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5598883894140893389.post-59930022206000466602014-03-21T01:30:08.294+00:002014-03-21T01:30:08.294+00:00CMike said:
JCAPAN, more than likely a couple of ...<b>CMike said:</b><br /><br />JCAPAN, more than likely a couple of weeks back you read through the thread the quotes below are taken from, but I'll link to it anyway because, in total, it has more than a couple of gems in it.<br />The first quote is off on a different topic than the one suggested by your comment, but it's an important one and I I think CB is dead on in identifying what is <a href="http://www.ianwelsh.net/social-identity-markers-are-not-a-proxy-for-left-wing-social-policies/#comment-57484" rel="nofollow">the latest scam Democrats are taking the lead on:</a><br /><br />[BEGIN QUOTE]>>>>>Raising the minimum wage to $10.10 and then pegging it to inflation is a way of guaranteeing low wage jobs remain low wage. $10 10 doesn’t get near the rise in productivity, which Warren calculates at a minimum wage of $22.00/hr. [nor, for that matter, even the $10.75 hourly rate which would be the inflation adjusted value today for <a href="http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm" rel="nofollow">the $1.60 minimum wage rate</a> that was in effect in <a href="http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1.60&year1=1968&year2=2014" rel="nofollow">February, 1968.]</a><<<<<<[END QUOTE]<br /><br />On the particular point you raise by citing that Adolph Reed anecdote, would you agree the roots of that embrace of 1 percenter yuppism for the most deserving blacks by his student has as its distant but not indirect antecedent <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talented_tenth" rel="nofollow">the political strategy</a> W.E.B. Du Bois laid out in 1903, which challenged the broadly inclusive approach advocated for by Booker T. Washington, the leading national black leader of his era, to bring about the economic advance of his fellow Americans of African descent? (Within fifteen years of publishing his essay, Du Bois began to recognize some of the problems which were likely to ensue from with what he had proposed.) <br /><br />And back to <a href="http://www.ianwelsh.net/social-identity-markers-are-not-a-proxy-for-left-wing-social-policies/#comment-57556" rel="nofollow">that same thread</a> at Ian Welsh's, here's a related consideration Badtux raises in doing his part to upset the communal harmony of the Democratic Party by but slightly overstating the case:<br /><br />[BEGIN QUOTE]>>>>>I examined Obama’s policy proposals as published on his web site in early 2008 and told everybody that I could that the man was not a liberal. They refused to believe me, because everybody knows that all black people are liberals. Except they’re not, I knew that because I’d taught at two all-black schools and those teachers were as conservative as the Bible Belt could produce, they voted Democrat because the Republicans had morphed into the party of the KKK, not because they were personally liberal.<br /><br />They were all believers in traditional marriage, Jesus in the classroom, and so forth. If not for the color of their skin, eavesdropping in the teacher’s lounge you would have thought you were at a Republican convention. And that is, by and large, the black middle and upper class… they’re even more conservative than their white counterparts. Liberal? Obama? It was ludicrous from day one...<<<<<[END QUOTE]<br /><br />Reposthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999585125847347993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5598883894140893389.post-58999776823896162452014-03-21T01:25:42.015+00:002014-03-21T01:25:42.015+00:00jcapan said:
Forgive me if this has already come ...<b>jcapan said:</b><br /><br />Forgive me if this has already come up here, but I was reminded of this great conversation between Bill Moyers and Adolph Reed when I saw Rall’s toon:<br /><br />http://billmoyers.com/segment/the-surrender-of-americas-liberals/<br /><br />These are just some extracts I selected:<br /><br />MOYERS: <i>So, I hear you saying, Adolph, that while social and cultural factors are important to us, economic issues are the fundamental existential questions. And that the neo-liberal parties, both of them, devoted to promoting the interests of multinational companies and capitalism don't care what you think about cultural and social issues, as long as they control the process by which nothing interferes with markets….</i><br /><br />REED: <i>I recall an incident in a seminar in, you know, black American political thought with a young woman who was a senior who said something in the class. And I just blurted out that it seem, that the burden of what she said seemed to be that the whole purpose of this Civil Rights Movement was to make it possible for people like her to go to Yale and then to go to work in investment banking.And she said unabashedly, well, yes, yes, and that's what I believe. And again, I didn't catch myself in time, so I just said to her, well, I wish somebody had told poor Viola Liuzzo, you know, before she left herself family in Michigan and got herself killed that that's what the punch line was going to be, because she might've stayed home to watch her kids grow up.<br /><br />And I think--I'm not prepared to accept as my metric of the extent of racial justice or victories of the struggles for racial justice, the election of a single individual to high office or appointment of a black individual to be corporate CEO. My metric would have to do with things like access to healthcare—Because the way politics has evolved since the 1980s is that what we get now is the symbolic victory for the single person instead of, right, you know, the redistributive agenda.</i><br />Reposthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999585125847347993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5598883894140893389.post-91698086097027559802014-03-21T01:23:24.084+00:002014-03-21T01:23:24.084+00:00jcapan said:
Ted Rall nails it. The black hole of...<b>jcapan said:</b><br /><br />Ted Rall nails it. The black hole of ID politics is hell bent on sucking every last bit of substance from our discourse.Reposthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999585125847347993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5598883894140893389.post-36613549464396675382014-03-21T01:21:37.560+00:002014-03-21T01:21:37.560+00:00Ten Bears said:
Was just outside enjoying a bit o...<b>Ten Bears said:</b><br /><br />Was just outside enjoying a bit of tobacco and saw my first bee of the year, and noted I have crocuses sprouting in the sun. Still have volcanoes though, and forest fires, and way too damned many newcomers. And no jobs.<br /><br />I can't add to what Suzie has to say, other than I, we, are experienced now. The pretentious assholes living high on the credit card are not. When the shit hits the fan, I, we, will survive. The pretentious assholes, will not.<br /><br /><i>I remember Harlequin! No fear.</i>Reposthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999585125847347993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5598883894140893389.post-91288894248411671262014-03-21T01:18:42.539+00:002014-03-21T01:18:42.539+00:00D. said:
"This is such a great group, and su...<b>D. said:</b><br /><br /><i>"This is such a great group, and such a great song."</i><br /><br />Yes, indeed.(The "movie" occasionally coincides with the facts, but there is better documentary material out there. Of the original group, only Otis Williams survives.)Reposthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999585125847347993noreply@blogger.com